Watts likely justified to himself (wrongly, of course) their murders based on this. Thats bullshit made up by her crazy ass, psycho in-laws the ones that raised a murderer. I like it - two snarky, bitchy Englishwomen can be quite entertaining. Lucky for these scammers theres HIPAA. Watts told investigators Shanann did not fight back, and laid on the bed as he strangled her. According to Good Housekeeping, Watts played the role of a concerned husband when Shanann's friend reported her missing after being unable to get in contact with her. Was Saturday 25 Six Nations RUGBY UNION BBCI, ITV1 & S4C The third week of the contest sees title favourites Ireland travel to Rome to face Italy (ITV1, k-o 2.15pm), before Wales welcome England to Cardiff's Principality Stadium (BBC1 & S4C, k-o 4.45pm). It doesnt matter what her past mistakes may or may not have been. Facebook Chris Watts . I followed the guy who was having an affair with Chris for over a year after he came out and he never changed his stories and would go on many details. teacher harriet voice shawne jackson; least stressful physician assistant specialties; grandma's marathon elevation gain; describe key elements of partnership working with external organisations; Joint for joint expenses, and yet have your own liquid accounts. There was no one in Shananns life that she didnt make use of. He probably considered the kids' murders as a mercy killing. Even her own mother admitted she shopped around until she got the correct diagnosis. She alienated Chris from his friends. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek, Discovery DocumentsEx husbandLeonard King. If you look at his fb page, shes still on his friends list. He saw no way out of the disastrous mess ( bossy shrew wife with hypochondria, destroying them financially and alienating the children from him while destroying their characters). The only other option would have been for Chris to be full-time parent. And there was that video of them where she encouraged them to smack Daddy! And just her overall demeanor that he was a dumb wallet for them to drain. Saw a new video today about Shan'annigan's 4,000 sf starter home in NC that she fled from, leaving most everything in there behind. Two days later, he was arrested in connection with their deaths. Odd that when her marriage to King ran into trouble her behavior exactly mirrored that of Chris in the months before the murders: Not waning to engage in conversation, shutting down, withdrawing, physically distancing herself within the home, etc. The woman who started googling Chris Watts and Shanann Watts just after the Mead explosion. Watts was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. On Thursday, authorities found three bodies: Shanann was buried in a shallow grave about 40 miles east of their home at a work site belonging to her husband's former employer (which fired him. r255/r257 is a moron. 80,000 was between both of their salaries. Police say the three victims were murdered in their home and later transported to the oil field. Foolish and impulsive on her part, but not at all impossible at the time. She was game to go camping and didnt take five hours to do her makeup and hair and nails. Why is he being so cold? And then she does the usual bulldozer thing (she just couldnt help it) and buys a self-help book and demands he read it and write a fucking book report on it. Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com, Husband appears shackled in court after the bodies of his missing pregnant wife and their two daughters whom he confessed to killing are found at the Colorado oil field where he worked, Was husband who killed his pregnant wife and kids bitter over her sudden success? She must have been extremely annoying when alive. Or repeatedly mess around with their kids names. I think he was planning to make it look like an accident, that Shanann Wayts came out looking for him, to confront him about his affair maybe. When their marriage was not going so well, SHANANN poured herself into work, worked a lot and stopped coming home at night. Then he killed his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3 at his job site on an oil field. LEONARD said that people liked SHANANN. Pediatricians screen for it as a matter of course. ". What bank is giving a 20-something single woman making, what, $40k/year TOPS? She was an odious frau and I could believe she was a Munchausen's case. Oh I hear you R26. I cant figure out how they got so deeply in debt AGAIN after the first bankruptcy. She stayed at home all day gaming while her wife worked full time at Kohls. I still find this case fascinating. I do agree that Kessinger had more involvement than she pretended. 107: Chris was cheating, so he had no power. Chriss friends wife hugged Chris and Shanann forbade him from seeing that friend anymore. The MIL was a cunt to her, too, but I think its because MIL recognized a fellow manipulator. And Shanann. Is Shanann the only girlfriend he ever had? And I still think that he lied about some things and left details out of this confession. THIS IS TOTAL LEFT FIELD.. I wondered why, on the initial Officer Coonrod bodycam videos, there was no furniture in the dining room. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. Shanann was married to Chris Watts from November 3, 2012, till the time of her death on 13 August 2018. Hello and thank you for registering. The Rzucek's Say They Loved Chris At First. He had already been contacted by NBC News. 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Shanann Watts, 34, posted the photo of the shrouded doll on August 9, days before police say she and her daughtersCeleste, three, and Bella, four, were killed in their Frederick, Colorado home, on the northern outskirts of Denver. You are a complete moron if you think she killed her kids. The 34-year-old mother regularly posted updates on social media about her life in Frederick, Colorado, documenting her rise in the health and wellness world and gushing . LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. The alienation, the excuses shes having a bad day, all of it. She spent every minute thanking God and taking care of her precious gift that the Lord had blessed her with. They filed for chapter 7 BK in 2015 too, same year as the Watts. She was pretty smart with her lupus act, because, like fibromyalgia, it has broad diagnostic criteria that mostly depends on patient reporting. Like he obviously must be to kill people. Please complete the process by verifying your email address. Hello. R181: The friend is Chris Watts ex-girlfriend. The real drama would have begun when lawyers and judges began digging in Shan'ann's finances, and discovered she was lying. But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? She went through three first names. It does seem like a few people are looking to justify her murder so that they don't feel guilty about their attraction to Chris, seriously--but I'm assuming it's mostly tongue in cheek, since even if you can feel sympathy for someone snapping and killing a bitchy frau, there's the two innocent children and all r29 I believe Chris only made 60k/year and Shan'ann MAYBE made anither 30k with the Thrive! He was obviously still fucking his wife yet he was still a crazy horn dog. But the whole "act of passion" angle doesn . The family is survived by Shananns father, Frank Rzucek; Mother, Sandra Onorati Rzucek; Brother, Frankie Rzucek whom were inseparable and best friends; Uncle, Rocky Onorati; Aunt, Sharyn Onorati; Aunt, Robynn Odom; Uncle, Steve Onorati; and many nieces, nephews, cousins and close friends. Her parents called her SHANan. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. SHANANN was in high school when LEONARD first met her. He said they hadn't spoken since they split and he didn't even know her current name. Oh to be a remotely attractive straight white man. However, anyone who devotes MONTHS to harping on how annoying a dead woman was when she was alive, has all the screws loose. The discovery documents released by the Weld County District Attorney's office last week related to the murder investigation include an anecdote The documentary, entitled American Murder: The Family Next Door, began streaming on September 30. It is so fucking disturbing. [quote]Its my OPINION that people who mess around with their name are waving a red flag. At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. He is average, and he brutally murdered his entire family. [quote]Of course we can say nice things about her, too. Men are just disposing of women like theyre garbage. Weve never had a problem in our relationship like this. Never heard of her. Do you know where she's at?" [quote] in 2018, they were already in debt to the tune of almost 500K. Safe to say they were actually depending on Chris's 60k, which didn't cover their oversized suburban lifestyle. What if he really doesnt love me anymore? According to Shannans ex, she had many of the same traits as Chris! R141 Your boy was fucked with or without the nosy friend. Would you know my name if I saw you thriving in heaven? From all that we know, that sounds exactly like CW, and shrinking-violet SW was being dragged along and acquiesced to whatever her man told her to do. Nag, nag, nag. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN took out life insurance policies when they were married around 2004/2005 through USAA. Shanann was still very good friends with her ex husbands mother too. You're projecting your own values onto him. This baby in my belly deserves his full love, she texted her friend, who had advised her to go through Chris phone for signs of infidelity. But despite Chris' violent actions, he seemed to have the support of his parents. They were good marks, since they sold everything in 2015, quit their jobs, and moved in with Chris and Shanann for 15 months while Shanann was pregnant with CeCe, who was born July, 2015. ^ to be fair, Trent Bolte has them all beat in the crazy department. Watts wife was 15 weeks pregnant. What do you mean? All her bad decisions and shadyness led her to her violent death. And she DID turn the kids against Chris. Meanwhile, she was torturing and starving her children. Hello. Its crazy & I just dont understand it. The only thing Chris thought about when he snuffed them out, was his personal freedom as a newly buff beefcake to fuck Nicole Kessinger as well as other women (come on, he didn't just do this for HER only), and enjoy keeping his income for himself and his own pleasures. The ex states Shanann states she left because domestic violence. I would love to see a list that leads to Premeditated Murder. She was working to provide for family while her husband plotted murder. Someone on a FB forum had the same thing and said that their out-of-pocket/co-pay was like a thousand dollars. He left one of their bed sheets in the field with the bodies. Easy to say in retrospect I suppose. Shanann was 15 weeks pregnant at the time she was killed. LEONARD was unable to get details from her. And even during the confession, he still doesnt seem to feel bad for the two little girls. I'm laughing at Scam'Ann and Sham'Ann. Perhaps they were close at one time. Shannan loved her husband. Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? So Shan'ann's Thrive income was and remains, a mystery. His facial expressions reveal that he's more complex than that. Replying to myself - FattieWattie should be pronounced Fatty Watty as in Wat that rhymes with Fat..Ive fucked up on the first post already :/. He deserves peace. The FBI agents are being complimented as ingenius interrogators, but their smarminess is also cringeworthy. Shannan and the ex's wife were FB friends, she signed her up to Thrive but she didn't do very well with it. I asked about SHANANNs skills in conflict resolution. I do not like her, but I can see why she was a breath of fresh air for Chris. Chris Watts is not a sociopath. I just dont get that at all. He withdrew the girls from school before the cops got involved. "I'm worried about Shanann," she told Chris. Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche], TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE Visit the post for more. If we assume that she killed the children, why did he not turn her to the police and secretly dumped the bodies of his children that she killed. Chris Watts ultimately confessed to strangling 34-year-old Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant with a boy, and then smothering 3-year-old Celeste. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. Didnt last long, because how can you grift from a call center? And furnished it (with tacky shit, oh my goodness that woman liked purple and aqua). Police are expected to release further details on Monday, when formal charges are announced. He was sentenced Monday to. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. I had trouble sleeping after reading it. R135, the timing of the name change seems to perfectly coincide with her fleeing from North Carolina and the Shan'annigens she had been involved in there. Janny Free please dont call them little monsters they died but the hand of their father, and Bella was such a sweet little girl, and CeCe was younger she was still in toddler stageShe was gonna grow out of itNo matter what happened between these adults they didnt deserve to die, and neither did Shanann RIP Shanann and your 3 Angels Bella Celeste Nico , Janny didnt call them little monsters she was repeating what Shanann called them in one of her videos . They all look like a ringing endorsement of health, R15. Maybe it was a neat and tidy rule. Is Colorado NOT a no-fault divorce state? Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger. Chris clearly has the right to sue Le-Vel. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. Chris isnt going anywhere, so he should turn her in. You dont consider others at all, nor think about others' feelings.. Chris Watts displayed Ted Bundy level coldness and emotionally tortured those girls before making them watch him killing each other and throwing their dead mothers body around like trash. LEONARD actually did not know SHANANNs last name until a few days ago. Think hes still lying about some details? Bella especially went through absolute hell. What do you mean needed Chris to pay the bills- they both needed each other to pay the bills. I listened to Interview podcast with the ex. He learned of this case from social media and news. According to a Facebook post . But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. So depressing. True, r35. R197, If you watch the videos when she live-streams from the deck, back beyond their house looks like a dump -- literally, the city dump. I notice other than no longer wanting to be with him, he had nice things to say about her, she was a hard worker, people liked and were drawn to her and she got along well with them. Dont interrupt me. Makes me want to slap those agents silly. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. Thank you so much for providing all of the analyzation and conclusion because it defines this case as it was and is. She has a pretty face. I asked about SHANANNs skills in conflict resolution. Especially Scooby Nickole! That wasnt a real work trip, it was a boondoggle to cavort with her fat friends. The fact that the physician performing her autopsy found "no evidence of disease". She was 25. 'I dont know what to think about this' Shanann wrote above the photo, adding two laughing-tears emojis. When their marriage was not going so well, SHANANN poured herself into work, worked a lot and stopped coming home at night. Shanann and her two daughters, Bella and Celeste, were reported missing on August 13, 2018 in Frederick, Colorado. Women like that can get him to do anything. More than a half year before their affair began. For the kind of woman Shannon was, she wouldnt have just given up on her two children even if Chris had left. And a few people I know in real life. The 33-year-old pleaded guilty to killing his wife Shanann Watts and their children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, in exchange for avoiding the death penalty as part of a plea deal. What a fucking nightmare! I know that being a pain in the ass isn't grounds for death; if it were, I'd have been dead long ago. Banks have a duty to keep you from insolvency when you buy a house. Do there was financial issues going on. When the song ends, Bella blows the candles out on the round cake adorned with a butterfly on the side. A 12 yo girl took it for one day and felt amazing! It doesnt appear that there was any history of beating or physical or sexual abuse with them & Chris (that we know of), so what the fuck happened? That's idiotic R70. Identity is an interesting thing. And its interesting to see how people defend her nauseating videos (it was for her JOB!) and bitchiness to her husband and children (I boss my husband. From the more than 2000 page discovery file published by the DA months ago. Connect to the World Family Tree to find out, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280780/shan_ann-cathryn-rzucek, Jan 10 1984 - Passaic, Passaic, New Jersey, United States, Aug 13 2018 - Erie, Boulder, Colorado, United States, Bella Marie Watts, Celeste Cathryn Watts, Nico Lee Watts, Source: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/192280791/bella-marie-watts, Clifton, Passaic County, New Jersey, United States, Frederick, Weld County, Colorado, United States, Bethesda Cemetery, Aberdeen, Moore County, North Carolina, United States, North Carolina, Mecklenburg County Marriage Index, 1884-2019, Burial of Shan'ann C. King-Watts (Rzucek), Aberdeen, Moore County, North Carolina, United States. Husband, Children & Relationships. She named him Nico Lee. The husband looks hot, she's not, R3, whoever she is. Before meeting Chris, she was married to a man named Leonard King, and they got divorced in 2009. Christopher Lee Watts (born May 16, 1985)[1] admitted to murdering his pregnant wife Shanann Cathryn Watts (ne Rzucek; born January 10, 1984) by strangulation. R107, yup yup yup. Selling prescription meds? The couple had reportedly had marital stress, and Shanann and the daughters had recently spent six weeks in North Carolina with her family, arriving back in Colorado on August 7. Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com And he killed Cece right next to Bella in the backseat. He described how he did it. She had sold her mansion in NC after they hightailed it outta there, in a hurry. A financial, medical, and emotional con! Facebook & its ilk are full of fraus like her -- none of them deserve to die but all of them are annoying as hell. I looked on Google Maps, and boy were they right!! She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. https://www.wltx.com/article/news/slain-mom-2-daughters-had-been-in-sc-just-weeks-before-their-deaths/101-585544417, Was just being nosey and googling, do you think this is the same Arie King in N.C? But its true. Quiet people may appear calm but Chris was not quiet inside. True R63. R23, the medical bills were because she had factitious disorder. LEONARD said that he was very interested in marriage counseling and they went to a couple sessions, but it was virtually impossible to engage SHANANN in conversation. She would terrify me. What's the source on that 500k figure? It wouldn't seem with the way she spent money that they would have a large down payment. 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