I think shes using bother in the I dont like it sense. I drank way too much Goldschlager when I was in high school and still cant deal with it! 1 They always take a lunch break with you. Instead they want to continue chatting or working. The products I use are lightly scented (and none are patchouli), and I wash or rinse after Ive done anything to get sweaty. Exactly. Several of the ingredients they use are irritants to lungs and eyes, several others are known allergens, and some of them are linked to neurotoxicity. Chicken is the reason I gave up vegetarianism after 7 years and I honestly could go without any other meat lamb is nice, steak is good occasionally. So, cutting out caffeine completely helped a lot, but doesn't help completely. Which to me goes to the idea that at some point the sensitive person just needs adaptive equipment. She needs to figure out a way to disperse the smell at work (with a fan? Also I get that OP is bending over backwards completely to try to be scent free, but honestly, even scent free soaps are not. The ones made with essential oils seem OK, its the more chemical created scents. The scent I was wearing the day she complained wasnt even actually patchouli, although I admit that I have loved the smell of patchouli since my ill-advised goth phase in high school. :). Thats why I like Alisons advice. It strikes me that she was initiating a power play. Time to go on the offensive here. It's not so easy no matter where you work. I cant say that Id ask anyone who burned them at home in their free time to knock it off just because I didnt like the smell though. Norovirus and egg drop soup, which is a crying shame because I used to love it, and until that experience it was my go-to soup when I was sick (cheap, easy take out, semi-nutritious). If your office is small, and earbuds and relocation are not an option, you should discuss your frustration with your manager, who may or may not bring your coworker into the discussion to explain. They have to go out in public and buy groceries, get gas, go to the doctor, and basically interact with a whole plethora of other humans and nonhumans who all emit various smells. But seriously? Thrown everything in the washer when I get home, may not wash it than and there, and take a shower before heading to bed. This is definitely on this co-worker. Interestingly, Im really sensitive to patchouli. This may have already been mentioned, but the co-worker said the scent was bothering her. Bothering her as in I dont like that scent or bothering her as in I get debilitating migraines and cannot work due to that scent? There is a big difference. In particular Ive heard white people comment on how black people smell, though Im sure other POC have similar experiences. Take AAMs suggestions to speak to Manager or to take it to HR and see what kind of reaction you get. I will say re: patchouli that its a particularly lingering fragrance. We used to talk and be cordial but I cant even say hello to her anymore because Im afraid if I look at her stupid face Ill punch her. My boyfriend has the same problem. Copyright 2007 - 2023 Ask A Manager. After we stopped that we smelled. Instead, offer practical solutions that can fix the solution for everyone. Oh, Jager I cant be near it. I know you cant do it, because itd be hard to make it fly, but Id love to blindfold that coworker and have them walk around and see what they smell where. But yeah, some smells cling to clothes through the laundry. OP says she stopped wearing the perfume, but specifically notes in the letter she also wears essential oils. If her coworkers sensitivity is that acute, it is up to management to arrange that shes isolated from scents that bother her, not up to her coworkers to arrange their entire lives around it). Its also not a popular smell for body fragrances either, which tend to be floral or fruit based. if there was someone I work with who had a scent sensitivity, Id be sensitive to that. The runny nose, persistent stuffiness, and postnasal drip of the sniffles are often self-diagnosed as a cold. But never together in a million years. It was rather sad! The entire planet is not going to change to accommodate you. I still cant eat that stuff. I also let them know Im ever so grateful they are taking my health concerns seriously. Yep. I was thinking about this, too, but I havent gotten any promotion, raise or recognition since we started working on this project. Sniffle. Changes in temperature or barometric pressure can also cause non-allergic rhinitis, he adds. Before I purchased the humidifier I googled it & found other was somy house won't be so dry. Cant they pick a food thats less nice? Curiously enough, the first symptom I get is irritability. Also, my perfumes are kept in a closed cedar box that is separate from both my closet and my dresser. Actually, I think the OP has taken more measures than are actually reasonable and that the OP has really bent over backwards on this. I may be slightly fixated on that part because I have an unheated detached garage and it snowed last night. Im incredibly sensitive to both man-made and natural fragrances. Im guessing no, otherwise the coworker would have an office reputation for being sensitive. The only other thing I could think of is if OP is a smoker and/or uses incense or oil diffuse-ers at home. I have 3 co-workers now who smoke, but hate how they smell after they smoke, so they take perfume showers in their cubes 3x/day. Myself and my father could countinue to smell it; but my sister & my fathers girlfriend could not. I put this at the top of the post but am adding it here too: There have been loads of suggestions above for additional ways the letter-writer could tackle potential scents and stamp them out. Youre going a long way to accommodate her, which is nice of you. If the sound or smell persists after you've kindly spoken with your colleague, you have two options, says Rossi. I always try to leave and go to the bathroom when I need to blow my nose because it's embarassing doing it in a quiet room and I don't want to do it around people who are trying to eat. Im not trying to like, lecture you, but I really think more people should be made aware of just HOW BAD Febreeze is. I think that it might be another coworker or it could be the scent from a product used to clean the office. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. So if the co-worker were to have a genuine allergy to patchouli, say, it wouldnt help. And one year when I was a broke college student, the place where I worked had basically an endless supply of get a meal 1/2 off coupons from Moes, which was next door to the store and made it the cheapest full meal I could get most days. Yeah, totally, for mention of patchouli above I think you can refer to the Zendaya Giuliana Rancic dreadlocks saga of 2015 for an example on how this can play out. If Im being charitable to the coworker, I think this may be happening; shes having a real reaction to a non-existent smell because she assumes its there. When That Pain in Your Mouth Is a Salivary Stone, How Sinus Problems Can Affect Your Sex Life and What to Do About It, What to Know About Losing Your Sense of Smell and How It Relates to COVID-19, Chronic Rhinorrhea: 7 Surprising Causes of Constant Runny Nose, 6 Sore Throat Remedies That Actually Work. Created for people with ongoing healthcare needs but benefits everyone. Oh! If some of these ideas dont work, I might try asking her, What, exactly, are you smelling? It's a personal issue and you won't like it but it needs addressing and I don't want you to react badly OK? I'll be studying in one room with the door shut and can still hear him sniffling in the other room. nothing seems to help, except taking a 1/2 of a 5 mg flexeral at bedtime, It calms the constant sniffiling and I can sleep. Brownie batter? I will also say, as someone who is very sensitive to smells, that if the scent bothers the coworker it would probably only take a trace amount for her to smell it, although shes handling it like a jerk. 7)Constant messaging and texting Constant communication at work (as well as at home) is a very very good sign of friendship and mutual understanding. This feels to me very much like the OP is being singled out. However, nothing I could do would fix the problem. Asking a coworker to switch soaps is ridiculous. I was offering it up as a suggestions just because if it were me Id be curious. But what if she likes patchouli? The Content on this Site is presented in a summary fashion, and is intended to be used for educational and entertainment purposes only. It could be that the coworker hasnt realized they have the issue, not our delightful LW. So anyway, yeah, it could be a medical thing. Youre not the only one that has had that thought. And I feel you pain. Psychosomatic reactions to various triggers, including scents, are pretty well documented. Oh yeah, thats smart too. If the co-worker keeps complaining, Id see if maybe someone else in the office can do a smell check to see if anyone else notices and can back you up if theres a complaint that day. Febreeze offers a scent-free allergen reducer version of the spray, which might be helpful if the OPs coworker actually still has a sensitivity and isnt just being rude. I only tried it in my hair once years ago, though. Ten points to Gryffindor! Or maybe the scents linger in a vehicle that then gets stuck on you, so to speak, or on an office chair? I worked in a lab, and pretty much every chemical we used suddenly smelled like fish, vomit or both to me. However, I noticed you said you stopped wearing perfume but have you also stopped using the indie oil scents? If so, that means that in the co-workers mind, the OP is trying to get away with wearing stuff that shes promised to stop wearing, which would explain her being shirty about it. Its like cilantro: some people like it, but for others its a gag-a-thon. I cant hear what my sons saying if hes sitting next to me but facing the other direction, but cant not hear him eating popcorn from the other room. It's really annoying. Either way, the Rooster's passive approach allows them to maintain a level of deniability. Boss needs to investigate whether theres a yet-unidentified cause related to OP, and direct Coworker to leave OP out of it if not (or if that cause isnt reasonable to ask OP to address, like Coworker just dislikes OPs natural smell). Is it because she's sad all the time, I guess? I honestly just remembered there was a scented lotion I used to wear, and I would notice the smell on my clothes even after I washed them. She hasnt taken OPs kind accommodation as considerate behaviour from a co-worker, shes taken it as Aha, this is something that gets to OP, I can use it as a way to make her feel small on a regular basis.. Blah, blah, blah. Its possible that its lingering in a way that you dont realize. I just wanted to thank you for being considerate to your coworker and refraining from wearing your perfumes to work. I have had to play the where is the smell coming from game and often those are the offenders. The only thing Id point out is that the coworker specifically mentioned patchouli when making comments about the smell, and lemon definitely does not smell like patchouli. I still loved bourbon but I could not drink Jack for 20 years. I think Alison has asked us not to read race into letters because it can become derailing and its all speculation. Im bringing this angle up because your coworker was wearing it after a weekend and doesnt seem to wear it every day. I think at this point and said above in more detail that its now time to do a the Voice type test to find out if the smell is part of the office, or settled in the mind of the coworker to the point that they smell it if its not there. Is your manager willing to get the company to pay for your shoes and chair to be professionally (and secentlessly) laundered? Although if someone (politely) asked me to use a different detergent because it was making them ill, I probably would. Yes Tom Ford has a fragrance called White Patchouli that I refer to as my rich hippie perfume. I keep shooting annoyed looks at her but she has yet to pick up the hints. Or, you could treat it like other medical accommodations, and look to HR for guidance on how to make things work. Yeah, this is a good point. I remember being at a conference and requesting that the organizers make some sort of announcement asking people not to spray perfume in the conference areas. I though he had peed on everything. Please cut it out.). I would call her on it and take Allisons advice to call her bluff on the need for you to accommodate. While I do believe that those people are offering these suggestions in good faith, I also think that this is absolutely the wrong track to take. Don't let on that you don't want to help, or you think she's stupid, since that's not helpful. All stimulants make the problem worse. I totally read this as coworker just being a power-tripping, Mean Girls style jerk. It may be that she or he is having an psychosomatic reaction to a scent however. Its super easy to become immune to a constant smell. By using this Site you agree to the following, By using this Site you agree to the following. swatting away an annoying fly that landed on the nose. Singing, coughing, sniffling - you name it. Ha ha ha! Ok, Ive got my asbestos underwear on, lets do this. I don't know what I would do without them some days. (I did draw the line when someone started spraying their AquaNet on their hair at their desk, though..). Which is a good thing to have anyway. I know were not supposed to criticize OPs, but come on. OP, could that be the source? I dont even own any alcohol-based spray-type perfumes, just oils and solid perfumes, and I still refer to them all as just perfume, so I think thats what OP meant. Makes weird noises. However, consideration goes both ways and it sounds like your coworker is taking this to an extreme. People are pretty accommodating when its a medical reason. Same here. The longer we are exposed, the more affected and sensitive we are. Maybe she got it confused with lemongrass? For the most part, he leaves juuuust late enough 4 days out of 5 that it happens either as everyone else is about to leave or has already left, so no one has ever said anything to him about how unpleasant it is. But if she has a life-threatening allergy thats on a hair trigger, youd have to ask coworkers and their families to change everything in their routines, and Im still not sure it would work. Oh no! I had a similar problem with Oreos, which was really sad because I love Oreos. I would abstain from actively putting on perfume before work, but I wouldnt get up early to shower before work if that wasnt something I felt like doing. Or would you prefer that sound to sniffling? If the coworker is treating this as a medical sensitivity, or is escalating her complaints to your boss, then I think you need to get some help with the situation. I would also say they need to go to their manager or HR. Are they the only three people in the workplace? OP, is there a possibility of moving your (or her) physical location? There is an FREE (unscented) Febreeze for fabrics. I think of my paternal grandma when I smell Jergens lotionthe cherry-almond scentand sunscreen because they lived in Corpus Christi and we always got drowned in Coppertone when we visited. Non-allergic rhinitis. Theres no legal definition of unscented and fragrance-free, so companies can slap that label any product. We cannot lock ourselves in a room and stay there because we have to work, get groceries, and do all the things the rest of us have to do. I was an intern and during a slow period, my supervisor told me to wipe down some shelves with some kind of cleaner. OP, I think the strongest scent I wear is from my shampoo/conditioner, and theyre as close to unscented as it can get. Now that Im older, Im having issues with strong floral scents. Note that the issue is addressed in a business by in this case, the sniffer's manager, to the sniffer. * Shes a jerk. Even on the beach, swimming, walking etc. Everyone . I think the LWs coworker is bullying her and LW should respond accordingly. I literally invited HR to do spot checks of my cubicle to find the phantom spray. Stop using the lemon-scented body wash for a few days and see if she keeps making the comments. Im fragrance sensitive. He doesnt wear cologne, and keeps up his hygiene (and doesnt use mothballs). Shes done more than is reasonable. Suggest management isolate her if living in the world is too much for her once accommodations have already been made and she wont. (And even if she werent, the co-worker is clearly going about this the wrong way!). :D (Rabbit is pretty up there too actually and remarkably similar to chicken.). I mentioned to my manager that I was cutting out the one thing I could think of that could be leaving a scent, and so far there hasnt been additional complaints (that I know of). In this particular case, I think the OP has done enough and its time to bring the boss in to either shut down the rudeness or find the coworker a new place to sit. I dont wear it often (I find it soothing and will sometimes put a little on in the evening, just on my wrist and just for me). Some spells last for hours, some all day and some effect me breathing as well as I am constantly sniffling. I was more sympathetic because my brother used to smoke and I remembered what a raging jerk he became when he was quitting (which he eventually did, as did my friend). Here are 11 signs you're dealing with a toxic coworker. Unless a colleague is burping or sniffing specifically to annoy you, you might not want to elevate the situation by lodging a complaint about her. 10 Worst Cities for Spring Allergies. Scent-free initiatives always seem so invasive to me. I dont necessarily think anyone should totally change the soap they use because as someone who is dramatically allergic/sensitive to smells, I really dont think commercial soaps smell THAT strongly. Many problems can lie behind that runny nose. As I see it, LW is the victim of a bully at this point. Your symptoms are very common for people who have a form of acid reflux called laryngopharyngeal reflux - also known as "silent reflux" because many people with LPR don't have the traditional symptoms of heartburn. I feel like the LW has done more than enough to ensure that they dont smell strongly at work and that this coworker is being unreasonable and rude. Dont even turn your head. This. I do keep it open when not in use, but it gets gross anyway. Fortunately he was in no way attached to the stuff hed been using, but if I slept in his bed I got a rash from his sheets. Um no. It meant Christmas shopping really sucked for her because that is such a common smell that time of year and shed get migraines walking into stores that smelled like that. 10% off Management Today's Leadership Learning programme. I get mild to moderate headaches.. it sucks but theyre survivable. It was untrue and unkind. If so youve gone above & beyond & youre under no obligation to do more. That was my first thought. Misophonia is a neurophysiological disorder in which sufferers face an aversive reaction to otherwise normal sounds and (visual) stimuli. My coworker walks in after 8:00 a.m. every single day. Sneaky jerks. Its like take the LW at their word doesnt apply to fragrance-based letters or something. Allow your puppy little sniff breaks along the walk to decompress from walking alongside you in Heel and get their fill of scents. 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